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Jilan Shah's avatar

Really good article. To your questions:

1) Yes, the state gone too far in trying to protect its citizens from a nebulous concept of “harm”.

2) No the modern world is not too complicated for the use of such a simple concept as the harm principle.

A couple of observations:

Any legislation to prevent psychological harm is problematic as psychological harm is subjective i.e. dependent on the mental state of the recipient.

There are many that say Climate change is pressing but there are many others with a counter or dissenting view. So how does favouring taxes and regulations preserve choice? Also where is the direct physical harm which you refer to and which harmful behaviour that causes it needs to be discouraged?

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Brian Edmunds's avatar

An interesting point of view. The assumption that a Victorian theologian without the benefits of a modern society’s view and modern interpretations is in itself flawed. Whatever it was he wanted to express in little words was for then. We have hopefully by now, moved on from a poor state of affairs to one that is much more complicated and holistic for a modern society. Simplicity of view is too simple in my view. You can’t wrap up everything in a neat little sentence. I wish you could and harbouring that wish now in thinking it applies is deluding yourselves. There is nothing wrong with a big state. In fact it’s much more caring, free and serving if it is. A small state abdicates its responsibility to people. And to think people can be fair equitable and decent enough to make good decisions to go the right things is as wrong today as it was then. Some can, I’m sure you can. But a lot can’t. No, what has led you to wanting a small state is not about freedoms that are being infringed. Or speech that is being silenced. No, it’s all about cost. The idea that with freedoms gone small state snd less cost is, I suspect, the ideal for you. The motivator of your objection. My view is much more radical to this way. I believe we should have more! More money to begin with. More Spending of money that presently gets unspent each month. Make the economy work to pay for a government and services that actually work. We have free speech. And haven’t lost it. We are free to exist. But the democracy we choose is that the 49% have to accept and adhere to the 51%. That’s tough yes, but it’s freedom with consent. By consent and it works. It’s the best way to achieve freedom for all safely. I would put a spend by date on money to make it rotate. I would allow the people to earn more, spend more and enjoy more. Have more revenue for pensions. We should only need one! A bloody good one. I would have proper borders, paid for by extra tax revenue from a tsunami of SPENDING. I would have a well paid border force to turn the boats back to France. Make them have them back! I’d have ID cards, we have driving licences and bank cards no difference in my mind. I’d have everyone’s DNA on record. So we can catch the criminals easily. I’d have more cameras and more police. Not less. What we need is a decent leader. Not a leader who is just another fool or villain or doesn’t know right from wrong. We have the ability to prove our every move to prevent abuse. So modern improvements can and should protect abuse of the system. But we don’t have good leaders. That’s our problem of late. Future forward thinking is best. Not everything in the past is better. Old wise men snd women are great role models. But we have to do better. Every generation do better. Our monetary system is as old as money itself. Spend hoping it’ll come back again. We can make it come back using modern digital money. So why aren’t we using it? This is a classic example of ignorance through a wish for simplicity and a lack of forward thinking. Every old economist would have used it had it been available! That’s my evidence for looking in the right direction for salvation. Not backward. IMO.

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