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Steve. Please. Please start to listen to another way. What you have said, what your videos here show is s single view. A view that is not the answer and that deals in the abstract. Everything from removing the planning acts but, not giving a replacement? To, if you spend too much stop and make cuts without any explanation on what must replace the situation once you have made the cuts!

Steve, as good a thinker as these people are, and they clearly are thinkers, they still, collectively or individually can’t see beyond their one stop view.

You are right, we need an answer. We need real plans to get us from here to there. To a happy and perfect system for us ALL to live with and follow. We need a real plan and a vision to tell us all where and how that is reached.

What I saw is a group of people telling the system what the next step might be. It may be right or it may be cobblers! But it’s not a coherent pathway or a plan. It’s just their next step view. We need vision not a possible next step Steve.

We need vision. I never heard of Henry Ford shouting out “stop the line, we’ve spent too much this week!”. And the biggest economy the USA saying ‘’stop printing money we’ve printed too much”. They have a deficit of $35-40 trillion dollars. And that’s just the deficit!

And Steve, let me just put to bed the tax payers alliance argument. Just because income tax payers are liable for their tax they don’t pay it! Their business pays it!! It’s paid by the employer. It’s an overall package of remuneration calculated by the employer and is a total cost to the business. Which has to be accounted for out of the business model from the revenue and profits from that business’ charging its customers and consumers, us! All of us!!

Whether you are a worker or a non worker, tax contributions are the same! Vat and duty. Non workers snd workers pay the same taxes! In fact the non workers pay more tax pro rata of their income than the top earners.

People who spend 100% of their monthly income, pay 100% of possible tax.

Those who only spend 50% of their income only contribute 50% to possible tax collection and those who spend 0% of their monthly income contribute 0% to tax revenue for the exchequer. So they contribute nothing to our tax system nor our tax paying pot! They contribute sod all!

So, despite the feeling that workers pay for non workers is cobblers Steve!

The fact is, the workers who work for a business only can because of the ‘Spending’ of the non workers just as much as other workers.

And as I have shown, it’s highly likely, non workers contribute more of their income, pro rata, than other workers whose wages and incomes go towards the profits of the businesses who pay those other workers!

So just by having a tax payers alliance, wrongly assumes there are taxpayers and non taxpayers. Where in fact we have just tax payers!

There you have an example of wrong thinking Steve. Your group all start from the wrong premise.

That’s what’s wrong with our governance. You’re all wrong!

Not because you can’t think. It’s because you don’t think in the right way.

Look, I’m going to give you a couple of examples that clearly show we can do better to understand the problem. Unless you can see the problems, you will never get the right answer!

Picture a homeless beggar, (likely to be an ex soldier on PTSD if you card to look closely) comatose on a village bench from drinking a bottle of whisky after his day of begging. He had just paid 73% of bat and duty on his purchase, let alone contributing to the profit of the supermarket, hauliers and the distillery. He spent 100% of his income. And paid 73% in vat and duty to the exchequer. Even he pays taxes! He contributed to the tax paying ability of the supermarket hauliers and distillery and contributed 100% to that cause.

And consider this Steve. There is apparently £19 trillion pounds out there in the aether. I’m not sure if that’s correct but it’s what the consensus says.

If the hats the case, and if that was all SPENT just once, not trillions of times in our economy but just once, in a whole year not in a day or a week or a month, a whole year, just once, one rotation, then we should expect to get in £3.8 trillion pounds to the exchequer.

£3.8 trillion pounds in vat tax take. That’s your times our present tax take!

Four bloody times Steve. Don’t tell me cuts are necessary. We need more of our money rotating faster and in more weight than we do at present! Not cuts!!

That’s vision Steve. It gives you the target to reach and how to get there.

What we have now and what we have had previously is the blind leading the blind.

Thatcher wasn’t right! She was wrong. You can’t treat our economy like a household budget. You are or were in charge of the rules and you were in the game requiring money too.

So you were in the game and referee and still you couldn’t rig it to win!

Thats ineptitude of stratospheric incompetence. All because your premise is flawed.

The clear problem is that we allow money to be kept. If money was allowed to flow there wouldn’t be a money supply problem.

Banks, pension funds and investment companies are all preventing flow! Pension plans are giant Ponzi schemes. Reliant on the future paying for the past while spending that money along the way!

Banks hanging onto deposits allow leverage lending. Producing money rather than allowing it to freely rotate. More times than lending it can do. Spending faster in more weight outweighs lending and debt repayment.

You can’t or won’t see it.

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